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will topple Galloway I'm States opal and
I'm George Galloway we're kicking off
and I mean kicking off about Jack Straw
the report of the Intelligence and
Security Committee in the House of
Commons just earlier this week has
caused well nothing
it's caused nothing just like the Chaco
inquiry report two years ago this week
it caused nothing nothing at all has
been the result of a parliamentary
committees inquiry which proved beyond a
peradventure that British Minister
systematically lied to Bauer's of
Commons and rather more importantly and
blood ly profited from the torture of
human beings by the United States in its
extraordinary rendition period which
lasted several years of the war on
terror
despite British ministers particularly
David Miliband and Jack Straw telling us
that Britain had nothing whatsoever to
do with extraordinary rendition would
never agree to profit from torture and
that those of us who said otherwise were
conspiracy theorists that's what we were
Steve as we always are George s amending
the implications or other safe attempt
potential implications of this should
should be staggering I mean we have
violations of international law we have
the senior most ministers under Blair's
administration directly in the frame for
this and yet as you say
there was a day of liberal newspaper
headlines
yeah guarding in the right-wing press
particularly although the right-wing
press is torn because at least it's a
Labour government that was presiding
over all this so that you can get a kick
in that labor so the mill fluttered only
to deceive in its coverage of it but by
day two it was gone of course absolutely
and so is this going to go the same way
as the Chilkoot inquiry which in itself
was sort of quite ineffective tool if
you like it exposing the real crimes of
tony blair in his administration but is
this going to go the same way i mean
some of the revelations were fairly
staggering in this report but you know
as well as I do it's nothing that most
of us didn't know already I remember you
stood up in Parliament and directly and
got hold of Jack Straw metaphor metaphor
agree yeah we should go and father know
so we know this and the challenges
firstly that Theresa Mays administration
if she pushes and investigates this then
it maple open up a can of worms for her
government for as well I'm not acting on
this prior and allowing allowing this
information to stay this is them this is
the biggest problem you know I believe
in retributive justice I believe that
people should pay for their crimes and
there are sins but even if you don't
believe in that the main problem is by
ignoring the Chilkoot inquiry two years
ago ignoring this torture rendition
inquiry just a few days ago we make it
more likely that future administrations
maybe even this administration will
commit exactly the same crimes because
if you are not forced to pay for them
why should you stop doing them and
that's the real reason why the Teresa
may government is defending the Tony
Blair and Gordon Brown by the way some
of this happened on Gordon Brown's prime
ministerial watch they're defending that
not because they like Blair or Brown
maybe they did maybe they didn't but
because they're defending Cameron in his
crimes against Lilia the defending
treasom a although she's a bit busy on
other things on her crimes in Syria and
elsewhere so each successive
administration and the deep state that
serves them all has to defend these
crimes there are one or two additional
failsafe points thought that I'd like to
make it is a synonym that in our
constitutional monarchy we don't have a
Constitution but we have custom and
practice our custom and practice is that
you can never directly lie to the House
of Commons and if you directly lie you
must pay immediately with your position
you must resign be sacked but in extreme
cases the Parliament itself must deal
with you the truth is Jack Straw is
still a privy councillor he's still the
right honourable haha Jack Straw it's
the right honourable David Miliband it's
the right honourable I kid you not Tony
Blair these people are still privy
counsellors they are still therefore
within reach of Parliament though none
of them are in Parliament in either
house and it seems to me that when in
Miliband's case it was fleeting
he said it's simply not true that we
allowed the use of diego garcia our base
there for american rendition flights
that was a lie you could see it was a
mistake but it wasn't it wasn't a lie
the Foreign Secretary doesn't make
mistakes in what he says at the
despatch-box
it's written down by his officials but
in jackstraws case strongly lengthy
verbose as was his one
lengthy denunciation of the allegations
that Britain was involved in this
torture and as I said accused those of
us accusing him of being conspiracy
theorists in other words crazy people
mad people and this was this was
legalized lying on a grand scale
that cannot be allowed to go unpunished
in my view and if it does go unpunished
it makes a mockery of any idea that
Britain is actually a constitutional
monarchy I don't have you've read the
full report I have we were involved in
795 cases of torture this from a
government that was saying daily it was
not involved in any 795 separate human
beings were tortured with us with skin
in the game in staggering the status and
quieten as well as three of the paid by
about three of them we paid by the way
we paid for three of the torture sorry
no it's fine that and what came off the
back of some of these torture sessions I
was reading was incorrect evidence as
well it was it was proven in this we
categorically incorrect but I think you
will lose if I torture torture you
you'll tell me anything of course even
just because you think that's what I
want you to say most of the time it's
it's complete nonsense from being
immoral yeah and it's been natural human
reaction
one is is physically and psychologically
abusing you to such extremes you're
gonna do anything you can to stop that
abuse happening and and but the you
alluded to wide upon which I think is
important that of course the full horror
and the the will to act on this report
is not there because it would then
implicate what Cameron did with Libya
what may has done in Syria and
rock and that's crucial to sort of
understanding the challenge with things
like this because this is nothing new I
mean if you go back to 1960s in America
they had the MKULTRA program which was
systematic taking vulnerable people in
American society and trialing out some
various experiments on them - with the
beauty using torture techniques and this
is this is carried on over the decades
and it's it is a systemic problem if you
like within not only our society but the
sort of globalized order of things and
it seems acceptable to the Western
Imperial nations that for economic and
democratic raises they can abuse people
from other countries bend them to their
will to get their own way and this is a
decades-old problem and no amount of
reports if you like in my opinion are
going to address this it needs we need
systemic and systematic change within
society to address these issues because
it's nothing new Under the Sun
unfortunately bombing for peace drugs
are angling for Liberty that's really
where we are an extraordinary business
extraordinary there was an almighty
ruckus on social media this week as
Danny Dyer star of EastEnders and
jungle-gym or British Hardman said on
good evening Britain with Piers Morgan
and Susanna Reid that David Cameron
Dover Cameron that that [ __ ] [ __ ]
where is he [ __ ] and he called David
Cameron the [ __ ] or spell out for the
Americans what Danny Dyer David Cameron
or [ __ ] DW 80 it's a very actually mean
it's very derogatory phrase in British
culture it refers to and the woman's
genitals and so date and David Cameron
was called the [ __ ] by Danny Dyer live
on television now I don't if you saw
this George it was live oh you did it
was it was the most bizarre piece of
television because you had Danny Dyer
flanked by the odious Piers Morgan
flanked by airy-fairy
daytime TV
presenter Suzanne read flanked by Jeremy
Corbyn and Pamela Anderson now if you'd
have said to me in 2014 that Pamela
Anderson Jeremy Corbyn and Danny Dyer
would be discussing brexit with Piers
Morgan I would have told you you are out
of your mind and you should be committed
well it shows how things change it does
I let it be known that I thought Corbin
shouldn't have done that show because
there he was surrounded by the flailing
breasts of Pamela Anderson formerly of
Baywatch constituency and Danny Dyer's
swear words for that's what is I swear
what that's why caused a ripple and in
the company of what seemed like I'm sure
there was no alcohol taken a rather
drunken raucous sure the only reason I
saw it is because it came on right after
the World Cup football and the prospect
of these juxtapositions was delicious
wasn't it I had never heard of Danny
time okay it now turn because I've never
seen nice tenders I've never seen
Coronation Street and he's in one or the
other but this no it's EastEnders cause
is that your cockney is except he's
related to Henry the eighth in anyone's
the Confessor and William the Conqueror
as well as unbelievably Thomas Cromwell
the adviser to Henry the eighth's oh not
quite a salt of the earth somebody else
lad but a blueblood then turns out he's
got a daughter who's currently in love
Island about which the whole of this
island appears to be talking no there
are many things that surprise you in
life and one of them is that Steve Topol
watches officious rumor
I watched it out of interest I have a
friends on social media who I like
seeing you a little bit pregnant or
you've lost your virginity a little bit
look miss you
love island weather for a friend for any
other reason jealous I have been hiding
I have a friend who's a social media
reality celebrity I'm he's very nice guy
actually I'm and he was touted to be on
love Islands but um it didn't come
through in the end abs didn't know
didn't cuts the mustard is about look I
find it I've watched a couple of times I
find it a fascinating insight if you
like and this is on the series now here
a fascinating insight into the way that
the mainstream media have facilitated by
sort of the capitalist capitalist class
if you like so hell-bent on dumbing the
masses guys have been trained that you
can get Royals and riches and anything
you want if you'll have your 15 minutes
of fame and the only path to happiness
and success is through the capitalist
system whether that be on reality talent
shows or programs like love island and
it's it's it's essentially a nonsense is
I don't really even understand the
format it's essentially people going on
it's an orgy on Dylan
I suppose it essentially is a sort of
back-end laylee and kind of fair and
people looks not necessarily their
brains well they're not chosen for what
comes out of their mouth and possibly
what goes in their mouth well that's
another story
no it's essentially a looks paste show
where people sort of date and the public
vote them off if they don't think
they're making a good couple but it is
it's endemic of the sort of society
we've become with this vapid celebrity
culture that doesn't really mean
anything it dominates now and
unfortunately you've made very good
point about Korbin you that's you saying
you shouldn't do these kind of shows
like good evening Britain which was and
alternative good morning Britain and
it's a very interesting point because
the sort of celebrity culture that Danny
Dyer was also a part of is now huge and
is there then a case for Corbin engaging
with that and well of course there's a
case for it
but it has to be chosen very carefully
and the main problem was Corbin couldn't
join in in a conversation about Pamela
Anderson's breasts because that would
lose him support on another part of the
constituency yeah and by the way Pamela
Anderson is a very clever woman and a
very brave and politically progressive
one yes she's a visitor to Julian
Assange in his Calvary in the Ecuadorian
Embassy for example but that's not what
she was on the show for she was on the
show to talk about her breasts off to
let men talk about our breasts and if
you're sitting alongside someone who
curses a fellow politician of former
prime minister you have to watch your
body language and and how you are seen
to see smells kinda tiny smirk there was
when he said that
so maybe I'm right maybe I'm wrong but I
don't think we should put Jeremy Corbyn
on love island in the next series
not just yet snow but I think we can
agree with the consensus that um David
Cameron is a [ __ ] I'd go further and I'd
say he was a Berkshire hunt a political
earthquake occurred this week in Mexico
which will reverberate throughout not
just Latin America but also the United
States of America to the victory of the
left-wing presidential candidate I say
victory but actually it was a landslide
victory with 53 percent of the poll in
the first ballot with the other two main
candidates trailing tens of points
behind and the ruling party the pre PRI
falling into third place as political
earthquakes go they don't get much
stronger than that
who is the new president and lo we
column that's Andres Manuel Lopez
Obrador
but he's known on this
Street as Amla and it's on the street
that he had his biggest impact as a
matter of fact he comes from the street
and is about to return to the street
because he's moving out before he moves
in or Mexico's presidential palace and
he's turning the palace into an art
gallery he's slashing his own salary and
he's dedicated to the 44% of Mexicans
who live below the poverty line
he's also determined to change the way
that the corrupt political class in
Mexico enriched themselves beyond the
dreams of avarice whilst gunning down
anyone that stands in their way
300,000 people have been murdered in
Mexico during the so-called war on drugs
which is usually cover for other score
settling and keeping in power of the
oligarchy Steve this must have made a
big impact on you as it did on me he
sounds like our sound sort of guy you
know it's a fascinating result I mean if
he's not least he's smashed a hundred
years or so of a two-party system in
Mexico which is done which was to cheeks
of the same art as yes exactly as most
of our democracies are smashed that
two-party system he comes across with
some very radical stances on things he
wants to me he look at the North
American Free Trade Agreement doesn't he
NAFTA he's immediately putting a halt to
negotiations with that I believe and
he's certainly not gonna pay for Donald
Trump's wall well they'll see that's
interesting because Trump being Trump
tweeted congratulatory dulcet tones
towards AMLO and then he also tweeted
something that's and he hopes about to
work with him to help build the wall I
can't see that happening it is
fascinating I mean he seems to be
putting sort of democratic socialist
values at the heart of what he does he
talks a lot about raising the minimum
wage
workers to lift people out of poverty
he's spoke a lot about pensions he's
spoken a lot about infrastructure it's
he's making a lot of noises off which
seem to be correct if you like and you
can't deny I mean a massive massive
majority I'm slightly I sit on the
earring towards caution fence on this
just because of unrest hear your
thoughts just because of some of the
things I've heard him saying I know he's
mentioned he said in the speech to a
conglomeration of banking institutions
in Mexico that he wasn't going to
disrupt the Mexican economy and that
they were safe with his support he said
there's no chance of them being
nationalized or anything such with real
as infrastructure I know he's looking at
public-private partnerships to get
infrastructure off its ground now I'm
mindful of the fact that we see the
situation where Mexico has had decades
off the decades after decades of corrupt
rule that has no regard for the working
classes and so it's going to take a hell
of a lot to turn that around I think
you're absolutely right to be cautious
he's not Hugo Chavez even less is he
Fidel Castro yeah the question for us is
easy Jeremy Corbyn or is he Tony Blair
and I think myself he's more carbon than
Blair matter of fact and one of the many
interesting things about this election
was that he's a 64 year old Silver Fox
that tens of millions of young people in
Mexico regard as a hero ring Lee bells
ring any bells
exactly I was on the Jeremy Vine show on
BBC and made exactly that point at which
point the BBC moved swiftly on they
didn't want any comparisons but in fact
there is a comparison at least in
rhetorical terms AMLO is more carbon
than Blair but you're right in the mood
music that is played for the bankers and
the industrialists and the rich and on
public-private partnerships what could
possibly go wrong with them he's
definitely seeking not to frighten the
horses yes but in the context of a
hundred years of nothing
of complete hegemony of the arse even
though I had latterly only latterly two
cheeks it's a tremendously dynamic
situation that has now been unleashed
because if your caution and to some
extent mine is right and he disappoints
the people who flooded out vote for them
and on precedented numbers then that
won't make the demands of those people
go away it'll merely need to another
stage of the struggle but I'll tell you
something else that happened on the
Latin American front or at least on the
front of American Latinas and Latinos
was the stunning victory in the Bronx in
New York City in the primary election
for the Congressional place including
the Bronx you want to go see the what
the Bronx you get a picture of the kind
of place that it is a 28 year old latina
woman
Alexandria Ocasio Cortes swept to the
Democratic Party's nomination even
though she stood explicitly as a
socialist capital S follower of Bernie
Sanders and was opposing a ten-time
congressman part of the Democratic Party
establishment a Clinton eye you might
say and this young woman an engineer
from a working-class background very
beautiful young woman
dashing swept to power she absolutely
annihilated her 10th I'm a congressman
opponent and the Democratic Party is now
in a state of panic is the Democratic
Party the party of Sanders and Ocasio
Cortes or is it the party of Hillary
and these others who led the Democratic
Party to disaster by forcing Hillary
Clinton as the candidate which led
directly to president Trump absolutely I
don't think it can be underestimated
just what this young woman has done
because it is now opened up that
Pandora's box with which the Democrats
try to firmly shut in the 2016
presidential election of well you say
what does the Democratic Party stand for
because if she's won on this capital s
socialist platform in the Bronx which
albeit okay so it's a poor working-class
sort of traditional us big-city
community the possibility is now endless
and the question is very big for the
Democrat wash as she pointed out when
the Democratic establishment said well
that can win in the Bronx but it can't
win in the Midwest she pointed out that
Bernie Sanders won the primary in all of
the crucial Midwestern states like
Wisconsin like Pennsylvania like
Michigan that Hillary Clinton lost to
Donald Trump
so it's a tremendous new twist in in
u.s. politics and of course the
establishment don't know whether to try
and embrace this young woman and pull
her towards them or push and repeal this
young woman as something other some kind
of alien they don't know what to do one
of them immediately tweeted that this is
the the fruition of Hillary Clinton's
run for the presidency shows that the
glass ceiling has been broken and women
can win this despite them throwing the
kitchen sink at the woman when she was
running and despite the fact that she
was a key ally of Bernie Sanders who I
repeat was cheated of the Democratic
party's nomination and if he had not
been we'd now be talking about president
Bernie Sanders coming to London next
week just think about that
so we currently had a tale of two
tournaments going on to bring back my um
my my Danny Dyer impression we currently
after the Russian World Cup lurching
from success to success and then off the
back of that starting with this week we
have the pinnacle of establishment
pageantry Wimbledon starting don't you
George we do as far away on the other
side of London but I just want to add to
the point you just made if it had been
left up to the Blair right
Labour MP like Stephen Kinnick this
world cup would have been sort of been
yes the greatest World Cup in history I
would argue but Wimbledon mmm is in the
news for all kinds of reasons it is
first of all Andrew Murray who's British
when he's winning and Scottish when he's
losing has had to pull up so there will
be no Murray Hill as there's no Tim
Henman
because that Hill used to be called
Inman Hill the British have nobody to
cheer for now in their own flagship
tennis tournament because money's pulled
up because of injury but the biggest
scandal I saw in the middle of a drought
with the grass turning golden everywhere
the Wimbledon officials are confiscating
people's water when they bring it in and
you've got to pay them to keep your
water in their cloakroom because of
course they want you to buy their drinks
there's not tell you everything about
the class composition of the World Cup
compared to I think it does yes I mean
this is the World Cup and look I
admitted on last week's show and nothing
to beat before showing maybe the week
before that and I'm no football
aficionado George um however I have got
quite into the World Cup I've been
watching I saw a fantastic goal from
Japan I think last night and I'll be
watching the England England match again
later
um but III think it's spectacular how
well the world cuts go on and then
most unbelievable it is unbelievable
that's because the British royals of
Indies and then do that quite nicely
leads us into the point about Wimbledon
it is just endemic of the British
establishment classes attitudes a sport
if you're liking especially tennis
there's somehow no realm thrown you the
Witch and rich and well-heeled if you
like it is the until Wimbledon is
stormed by the working-class yes the
song culottes all mineral water and
hymns and liberated and distributed
freely among our country in daily 3x
procreate the strawberries that's why I
say the cream yes and the scones
team is quite I think I did but I think
it's a Liza is a fascinating example of
the establishment classes that should
sport and it is it's this exclusionary
tactics the about oh nobody dies of
thirst amid this painting as heat into
image and so that the water they brought
was confiscated by the Blazers of the
Wimbledon tennis club was at the lawn
tennis or Zee Tennis Association yes
well that's all for us we we have indeed
and as always if you want to get in
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at George Galloway until next week take
care of yourselves don't be a twit just
one more thing Jack Straw extraordinary
rendition Diego Garcia this is nothing
new Under the Sun this has been going on
to the best of our knowledge since at
least the 1960s with the now infamous MK
ULTRA program where the US government's
and the CIA took some of the most
vulnerable people in society and
experimented on them to use as a
blueprint for their
torture programs abroad it's nothing new
for all we know and the likelihood is
it's still going on to this day under
Teresa Mays government and Donald
Trump's administration and this is the
point is now Emma Klein described in her
book the Shock Doctrine the shock is
quite often physical with Western powers
torturing suspects to get information
out of them but the shock is also one of
the system itself whereby the US and the
UK torturing people to impose their will
and get their own way in countries for
economic and power reasons until we have
a systemic change within society none of
this is going to change and it is going
to continue just as it has since the
sixties ah Mexico so far from God so
close to the United States AM law has
got a task on his plate how to develop
an independent country of a hundred and
twenty seven million people half of whom
live below the poverty line and many of
the rest are the richest people on the
earth with Donald Trump insulting us
gypsies tramps and thieves as the old
song put it and trying to build a wall
between the two countries and making you
pay for it I don't know who the props
department is but these glasses aren't
fit for purpose the question is is AMLO
fit for purpose is he Jeremy Corbyn or
is he Tony Blair the jury is out as are
we see you next week
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